Break FREE from Mental Health Stigma with Scott S. Osiecki, a CEO's Journey
00:00:00 let’s give a warm welcome to Our Guest today Mr Scott oiki from the Adams board and I know we talk about drugs but uh people becoming addicted to alcohol we still can’t forget about that as well because that still is an issue in our community and what that would be it’s sort of like we call it a living room model where an individual could just walk in and say that they’re experiencing these issues they need to talk to someone some people could drink casually right where others become addicted to ites keep it most he do it for the culture that’s always the
00:00:33 goal this is strategic moves with K [Music] Dow this is strategic mov [Music] Kow hey welcome to another episode of strategic moves I’m your host Kendal where we’re diving to the pressent issues of our time some of with some of the most influential people in our community and today we’re fortunate to have Scott oriki he is the CEO of he is the CEO of the Adams board here in Koga County Ohio for people who don’t know that’s kyoga County Ohio he is the CEO of our Adams board and he’s going to tell us what all of that means in a second and he’s come on to our
00:01:19 station today and we’re going to talk a little bit about what’s going on with drug addiction mental health and some of the other services that they offer there at the Adams board but before we get started on that I want to give a shout out to our best podcast producer and podcast history I gave him my title Scott as best podcast producer and podcast history that’s a big one to live up to what’s happening Latif wow thank you Ken I appreciate that see giving you your flowers that’s what that’s called I appreciate my flowers giving you your flowers so what’s going on before we jump
00:01:53 in here with Scott well you know we got a busy day today after this we got our press conference so oh yeah that’s right we’re doing a press conference today we having a press conference where we’re part of an organization that is attempting to put a thousand men on the street on September 28th to do canvasing in the city of Cleveland and knock on doors and try to get people out to vote so we’re going to be part of that kickoff today and that’s what Latif is talking about so anything else man we gonna get started with Scott so we can get moving let’s Jump Right
00:02:25 In let’s Jump Right In all right hey Scott so we want everybody who don’t know everybody in the audience here today we want to welcome Mr Scott oriki to our program yes thank you for for having me on I’m very hon to be here not a problem not a problem keep a little late with your audience but we got you there you said that so soft I was like wait okay all right let’s do it again so everybody in our studio audience let’s give a warm welcome to Our Guest today Mr Scott oiki from the Adams board thank you very much K it’s pleasure being here oh yeah that’s that’s better that’s right
00:03:01 we like that like that that’s the benefit about recording cuz we can record that’s that’s good so Scott let’s start off with um your journey before we begin as CEO as Adams board you had a diverse background in Social Services and Healthcare what experience from your past role shaped you for the approach from managing the mental health and addiction services at kyoga County yeah thank thanks for asking that so like you say I’ve always been involved in non profit and helping individuals I worked for the Hunger network of Greater Cleveland which is right here in your
00:03:35 building as well when it was the hunger task force and that’s where I learned uh I met Reverend gston so we know each other for about 30 years uh as well so I I always wanted to be in a business that was helping individuals rather than making money for somebody so and and also uh in the various things I work for cmj uh as well and uh working with the former CEO Mr denahan uh was really a great learning uh learning moment for me the entire time working with him so I learned a lot uh to be CEO from Mr denahan as well as you know he was a great Advocate as well for the people
00:04:11 and that’s what I um also want to be the same way so Scott I wants you to talk to the audience and tell everybody what does the Adam board does and the initial Adams board and all of that what cuz I have a millions and millions of listeners who watch this program and everybody’s not from kyoga County yes so for the people that’s listening what is the Adams board yeah so Adams stands for alcohol drug addiction and Mental Health Services Board of kayaga County actually we’re one of 50 boards throughout the state of Ohio okay and we’re a quasi independent part of County and
00:04:47 state government um we receive our funding mostly from the Health and Human Services Levy so thanks to all your listeners for for passing that um we are governed by a volunteer board of directors um have 18 slotted and I believe we have 16 right now um what we do is we are responsible for the planning the funding and the monitoring of all the community mental health and addiction services within kayaga County you know that’s where I think we very first met um I wonder when I was thinking because you was mentioned you was at um Koga I wonder was you there when we first met because
00:05:24 we started working on a Health and Human Service Levy together yes and but was you with the county I mean was you there you were somewhere else before um but been at the Adams board for about 30 years so you was with the Adams board even then the health yes I and I remember you were notorious for those things CU you kept running all the phone Banks and everything kept everything going but now with h technology and everything they don’t do that anymore yeah they it’s not that productive anymore to do phone Banks so and that’s been a while so that we’ve been doing the Human Service
00:05:55 Levy for quite a while at Le I didn’t do it the last time with you guys but the i’ I’ve been working with you guys on that quite a while so and you you still at it I see huh we’re still at it yeah excellent yeah yeah so we’re really grateful for the taxpayers you know in kyoga county for allowing us to have the funding the work that we do you know digital C made significant strides in expanding Broadband access in Cleveland how does the Improvement of digital a access um access play a role in addressing mental health and addiction issue and can you discuss any collaboration
00:06:28 between you digital C and the Adams board yeah so more people who have access to the internet right it’s great they could find information uh about mental illness and addictions uh they can visit our website which is a d MHS cc.org and we even have screenings on there so individuals could take their screenings they answer questions and see if you’re exhibiting signs or symptoms of mental illness or addiction and then it could follow up um that you could take that to your doctor uh to talk about any issues it’s not a diagnosis or anything like that but it’s letting
00:07:00 folks know um also with the pandemic uh a lot of our providers uh you know went to yeah uh uh over just don’t like me no we GNA leave that one off today because we got the blue light we GNA roll with that go yeah that they could be able to have their counseling sessions uh via VIA Zoom or via teams or things like that too so it’s really opened up oh I just also want to say Ken too that the Adams w we don’t provide direct service but what we do is we contract with about 72 to 75 provider agencies to provide those services for us so let’s talk about that a little bit cuz so
00:07:35 you’re saying you don’t provide the actual Services there you guys provide services to organizations that provide what kind of services you provide to them yeah so so we fund them one of the major things uh we also have oversight of the agency so they give us various reports that we follow um that and we are just kind of oversight of those agencies so you help them with some of their funding needs they need and kind of oversight some of the things that they got going there and they’re partners with us like on the Health and Human Service Levy or other campaigns
00:08:05 and things that we do let’s see Koga County faces a range of challenges from addiction crisis to Mental Health Services shortages and what do you see as the biggest obstacle um currently threatening and well-being that’s threatening the well-being of residents and how does the adland Board address these issues yes so actually there could be two Ken uh the first thing is that Workforce shortage so just like after the pandemic a lot of other Industries have shortage of Workforce it is certainly affecting the Behavioral Health Community um you know it’s
00:08:39 a hard job right for individuals to be involved in mental health and addiction and um sometimes they get burned out right and then also the pay has never kept up scale with rest of the health industry so the Adams board we’re we’re working on that um the state of Ohio is working on that as well to bring more people to the field and even welcoming people back to the field um the other thing that’s really uh harming our community right now is uh fentanyl being in various street drugs so the way the Adams board is um handling this is we offer fentanyl test
00:09:12 trips we have Naran available out in the community we’ve been have some vending machines out as well they free access to these things and the Adams Bo we don’t uh condone any sort of illicit drug use but we want people to know what they’re taking we want people to make an informed decision and then so they could be alive to help if they need it but what we’re finding is that right the fentanyl is in the street drugs people don’t know what they’re taking right so things may look like a pressed pill and it really isn’t it’s a it’s a fake a counter foot pill that has fentanyl in
00:09:42 it so that’s why we want the community to know that they could test that to see uh what they’re taking and to make informed decisions are people receptive to the vending machines I find that U and working so I I I won’t put out there I told you we working on something we finding that the vending machine we’re getting some push back from people they not wanting to have those type of machines around well that’s also like dealing with stigma right that could be another issue that we’re we’re facing you know since the pandemic stigma has lessens uh with mental health issues
00:10:13 but addiction issues are still you know people are embarrassed about them or people think it’s a lack of character or something but it’s not right it’s an actual physical uh disease that people have that they’re addicted to things and then some people think having that out in the community in the open it’s promoting drug it’s really not harm reduction is the best effort that we have to to stop overdoses or at least curb overdose deaths what are some of the communities where I have you on that you see that’s largely being affected by the fentol um areas is what zip Cod you or areas
00:10:47 you would say yeah so so actually we’re finding now that more overdoses are happening in the African-American or the black community really and yes and uh that’s when if they’re taking Street dogs you know they’re not intending to take that that’s how the overdoses are happening with the fentanyl that is in there and unfortunately deaths as well so actually what we do is we um uh we we work with the medical examiner’s office and then we find out where there’s um pockets of deaths happening and then we could able to Target those areas with uh media uh media promotions uh
00:11:20 direct uh emails direct things like that to get the information out into the community and how are they taking the fenta mainly yeah oh it could be in cocaine it could be in meth it could be in pressed pills like Aderall you know let’s say college kids or or teenagers or whatever looking for Aderall so you know to kind of to kind of keep going but then they find out by overdosing or you know some you know that’d be saved but overdosing that there was actually fentanyl in those pills you know because it’s strange Scott it’s like that um African-Americans traditionally and when I hear
00:11:56 Fenton that’s why I I said that uh I I know that there’s opiates which is pills when I think of it I’m thinking of people taking pills and um that was mainly affecting the white Community more so than the african-amer or the black community you would say and now with this thing of fentol you seeing more in the African American Community really yes that’s deep so they and and it’s not because they’re taking it more in an opiate form or pill they’re shooting it or whatever they ding whatever they that’s interesting and it’s in there and they don’t know they’re not looking for the
00:12:30 opiate interesting now how about the opiate I know it was a big issue and a big thing um the opiate crisis so how did that shape out so did it balance back out more over on that side and now we’re more moving to the other side well we’re fine it just continually morphing right so I remember it originally started with doctors overprescribing cor and people becoming addicted and then and then they would stop them then they were looking for Street heroin right they were looking for that but now that the medical Amber would tell you it’s not really heroin that people are dying of it’s
00:13:03 the fentanyl so it just keeps continuing uh to morph it was funny about it is that you know black people don’t make [Music] fentol how is this F I mean where I I and I know you is everybody where how is it that is predominantly in one area like that when it’s like not isn’t that a chemical drug like isn’t it has to be manufacturing made somewhere right right it’s manufactured outside of our country and then it comes in I don’t know all the the drug enforcement agency stuff but it is uh it’s manufactured outside they come in it gets into the street supplies and you know when
00:13:46 the DEA finds them and they cut it off there’s just another route coming right back in is there any coalition to that and poverty drugs and and and you would say that that’s why africanamerican Community is more faced with it because of that yeah so so you know fine with addictions of how people start right they’re looking to um to escape certain things maybe they’ve suffered trauma right and some people it doesn’t matter it might just be the first drink or the first pill they took because they are chemically dependent on that when it reaches their brain but you know that mental
00:14:19 illness and addictions really don’t discriminate against anybody whether you’re rich or poor black or white it’s just a it’s a kind of it’s a universal it’s just that now the drugs right they’re putting that in those the street drugs that would be typically used um you know in in let’s say poor poor neighborhoods or or not either so um my phone pH out of everybody let me cut this off okay yeah oh go ahead Scott I want you to continue you was on a good oh yeah um so yeah so you know people are often looking for a way out of certain situations in their life so but it really
00:14:56 does affect everyone you you know was really um when we were talking about you know the use and bringing it into the country and and and folks who are are actually um involved in that have there been any kind of studies that kind of show that um mental health and I I would like to believe a person with mental health issue and dealing with drugs has to be a bad bad cocktail yeah so and and and and is there studies that show that um that in our black communities especially that they higher usage because of mental health issues that are affecting them and and is that a thing
00:15:46 because now I was going to ask you with the you know the mental health thing being a uh thing is more out in the public and people are more talking about it which means that people are getting more help about or getting more assistance with it are you finding that the mental health portion of your business is seeming to be going up and we’re dealing with a lot more mental health versus the drug addiction or is the same or the same I can’t get my phone to cut off let me trigger out okay go ahead go ahead so we know that with more awareness of mental health issues people are
00:16:21 more comfortable now to seek out help for that and there are we often find Co core morbidity issues right so a person with mental illness could also have an addiction issue and it’s once again because person with the mental illness might be self-medicating themselves to say that they’re depressed or they’re anxious that they they’re looking for a way not to feel that way so that’s how sometimes they they get addicted you know to alcohol as well and I know we talk about drugs but uh people becoming addicted to alcohol we still can’t forget about that as well because that still
00:16:51 is an issue in our community Koga County Diversion Center yes has been a significant part of your strategy can you explain the role um in providing alternative approach to handling individuals in crisis and what are some of the successes and setbacks of encountering in this initiative over there yeah so so the Diversion Center was originally started as a way for uh law enforcement when they came across a low-level nonviolent offense and they were suspected of a person had a mental illness or an addiction issue that they would be able to call we have a hotline set
00:17:28 up 6236 888 and they would be able to have a brief screening to see if the individual uh was eligible for the Diversion Center at that point then they would be able to call the Diversion Center you know Frontline actually was answering those phone calls for us and they still are and they would be able to instruct the police officer to take them there so one thing that’s important to remember that this Diversion Center is voluntary so a person cannot not agree to go not agree to go or once they get there they could leave as well so um then we found out that police officers weren’t
00:18:03 coming across a lot of low-level non-violent offenses who would fit it but they said they know individuals in the community who can benefit for mental health and Addiction Services so we opened the referrals to that as well as fire and EMS as well and then uh when we were going through and analyzing how the Diversion Center was working we opened it to friends family and self- referral as well so individual still family friend or whatever it’s still all voluntary and they have to call that 623 688 number to get pre-screened so um what happens when you go there yeah so when
00:18:36 you go there you uh receive a uh an evaluation and assessment the individuals there would be able to see what what what services that you do need if you need Detox Services that’s available right there at the Diversion Center if you need counseling services that’s available there and residential treatment as well so that would be um let’s say was medication management you know getting somebody maybe with mental illness who aren’t using their medications anymore to get that um um yeah medication assisted treatment is also when a person uh you could um help medications
00:19:09 to help them with their addiction so people could stay five sometimes up to nine days depending on on their each unique situation and then they get a warm handoff or referral to further Treatment Services outpatient treatment so they stay up to five days yeah yeah that’s that’s the average that we have and now it’s open like you say a family so if you had a family member you think who can use some help or something like that they can call was it 611 uh 623 6888 623 6888 which is actually 988 so could take a minute to talk about that too 988 is the national hotline for mental
00:19:45 health and addiction issues and we’re lucky here in kyoga county that Frontline which always has been operating our crisis hotline is 988 so you could call 988 or 623 6888 when should you call that number uh we call it a when or what yeah my question is if if you was a person when should you call that number so let’s say uh first of all that you are looking for information on mental addiction you could call that number let’s say you’re looking for a referral let’s say I I know that I need mental health services or addiction treatment you call that number and
00:20:21 they will give you a referral to where you could go and also then it’s the crisis hotline so if an individual is feeling suicidal that they need to call that number we want you to call that number and then they will get you the help that you help that you need so if you really feel in suicidal you’re not f in it that that’s a place that you can’t call and somebody will answer the phone and talk to you oh yes they’ll answer the phone they’ll talk to you and then they’ll uh make a plan or whatever some sometimes they may even come out to where you’re at to make sure you’re okay or
00:20:49 with your permission you know call a family member or maybe law enforcement to interfere not interfere I didn’t mean that word intercede intercede I’m sorry and uh you know to make sure that the individual is okay is that 24 hours 7 Days 247 yes really and the Diversion Center is 247 as well you know the Diversion Center um um was getting some slack by um some of the folks because they say oh there never nobody in the Diversion Center is always empty and the police wasn’t bringing people do there because the police was complaining that the fact that you
00:21:20 know when we go get somebody we don’t want them to go in the front door go out the back door and right back over there again and now you calling us again because and came back yes um so that had to be a issue how are you guys working through that process yeah so we’ve heard from police officers you know the same thing as well as we hear for them to take an individual down there you know they they have to travel from wherever they are in kyoga county and usually two police officers have to go on that sort of trip so then they’re saying that the police officers you know um it’s taking
00:21:53 time away from their other duties or being on the on the streets in their Community um what we do is we are working with police officers we have Crisis Intervention team training uh we have two specific officers that are um uh funded through the county uh through through the Diversion Center Grant and they go they specifically do CIT training they also go to rooll calls uh police you know morning noon and night they go to specifically talk about the uh Diversion Center so and then also we’re constantly working with the county and Oriana House which operates the Diversion Center
00:22:27 you know how how can we tackle these issues you know so of course we would like police uh uh using it more but the fact is people are still using it there were 4,000 people uh since it opened up over 4,000 people who’ve had contact with the Diversion Center and over 2,000 that have completed the program there that’s really good that’s getting good number and is it just for Cleveland or the whole County yeah it’s all of kyoka County but the diversion board there’s a separate diversion board
00:22:55 that was created by the county and what uh they recently did is um Chang one of our um admission criteria that if an individual lives out of the county but they have a court case in kyoga County the court can make a referral for data person as well as a County resident interesting with the recent focus on mental health and substance abuse in local media how does the Allen board assure the community maintains a wealth informed and engaged with available Services yeah so so like I said we uh contract with over 7275 provider agencies we do a lot of a lot of advertising uh to let
00:23:37 people know specifically now we’ve been focusing on 988 to let individuals know that um we have various Community involvement we’re involved in a lot of different uh boards or commissions or Community groups uh so we want to make sure we we hear from the from the community as well and one new initiative that we’re starting is uh care response teams okay and that’s uh ZIP codes 44102 and 44105 and what that is that an individual in those areas we’re starting a pilot program so we’re just starting with those two zip codes which are identified by the city of Cleveland as one of
00:24:11 the the areas that have you know most interactions for mental health and addiction and it’s a non-p police response so what it is it is a a behavioral health specialist along with a peer so a peer a certified peer actually so it’s an individual who’s living uh in recovery from Mental Health and addiction you know and they know where the person is and how they’re feeling so when they’ll call they’ll actually be go go out to the community and we’re going to do that uh 247 we’re hopefully to start this uh by the end of September we’ve been working on it for quite a while and it
00:24:44 was brought to us by various Community groups that that you know this is something that we should we should really look into so what it’s just just another tool in our crisis services that we have uh that we uh that we fund so and crisis services are available for everybody in the Community you know um just you just call that number and and uh Frontline will help you out and Frontline is actually the provider of this service as well in your opinion what is the most effective strategy for improving public perception and reducing stigma around mental health and addiction issues
00:25:16 how does your team work to the most typical and most uh approachable or less taboo give me some example of some of the ones that are less taboo you so some of the things we do are Grassroots Outreach right and we also uh reach out uh we have a um a faith-based uh committee and we have faith-based providers uh as well and we are reaching out to the faith-based community to make sure that individuals you know know how to react when someone comes to talk about a mental health or an addiction issue um I forgot the rest of your question uh how how we reach out to the
00:25:52 community right so and and the best thing the best advice we give is people to talk about it right don’t be ashamed you would be ashamed going for a broken leg or you wouldn’t be ashamed for diabetes or cancer anymore right that you wouldn’t be embarrassed about that you need to tell folks about it and you need to let people know that it help is available and we know that treatment works and people do recover you know you wanted a few board that does have a faith-based component I I I remember when you said that I thought about I came to a couple of events you guys had with
00:26:22 them down there and yeah you guys are one of the few that does continue to reach out to those guys and we’re continue to reach out we’re going to have a series on trauma okay that we are are working on excellent you know um Scott you’ve been one of the key players in shape and mental health and Addiction Services in kyoga County do you have any personal experience or insights um that um influence your leadership in decision right so the reason why I’m in this business and so dedicated to it um alcoholism has affected my family so I know the results of that and
00:26:57 what could happen to people’s Liv lives and also suicide has been in our family as well so it’s important topics and I want people to know right that help is available and don’t be ashamed to talk about it you know we want everybody to live in recovery the best possible life uh that they had so you know over the 30 years that I’ve been there and six as the chief executive officer you know I always try to make the decisions on on clients and family members you know what what is best for them and our board does the same thing of course you know well I’m looking looking
00:27:28 um ahead what are some of the long-term goals for the Adams board are you um up and any upcoming projects other than one you just mentioned that you thought that you want to talk about yeah so uh the care response teams right once uh we’re going to do a year-long pilot on that and hopefully we will begin to expand that throughout kyaka County of course it’s a big undertaking right so that uh we are also working now on the development of a crisis center that would serve as our front door to our system and we are partnering right now with the centers uh to do that and what that would be
00:28:02 it’s sort of like we call it a living room model where an individual could just walk in and say that they’re experiencing these issues they need to talk to someone and um the individual there would also be a behavioral specialist along with a certified peer and then from there they would be able to triage what this individual needs so there’ll be a crisis stabilization unit there as well as well as uh like a 23-hour hold we would call that for people who need more intense Psychiatric Services until they figure uh you know what the best course of action would be so
00:28:35 we’re hopefully hopefully actually we received um arpa funding for this from the state from Capital funding so we are we’re excited we’re looking forward to that probably won’t open until sometime in 26 so it’s it’s a big project that we’re we’re working on oh Scott if you could give you a couple of little questions to send you out these are easy ones for okay easy okay yeah if you could uh have dinner with one person dead or alive or be that person for one day who would it be yeah those are always interesting questions right because there’s so many people that could be that
00:29:11 could be on your list so um I’ve always been sort of a fan of Walt Disney for what he was be able to create right and uh of how his imagination it it it led him to you know the Disney Empire that it is today right and all the different changes too that the in uh industry is making for Disney so I think I would like to have uh dinner with him and ask him you know how did you have have that imagination and the the willingness and stuff and to keep it moving forward that’s a really good one I didn’t have that question and nobody said Walt Disney okay I’m getting through
00:29:48 some good ones so that that’s a really good one to put on the list he’s worth talking to he’s still around they still doing and cause a fortun to get in and he’s still doing his thing so that’s a very good one I would say Scott and right he didn’t let obstacles then obstacles getting away and his his brand lives on and it’s GNA live on I mean I don’t see no stopping it I mean yeah um even uh what was that um elected official tried to take on Disney oh governor governor you know can’t be Disney yeah true how they changed with the times too right Disney they have you know
00:30:29 they they want to continue on and yeah so that’s really deep that’s a good answer what you say is one of the most common misconceptions about mental health and Addiction Services that you would like to debunk okay I would like to debunk that it’s a choice right and it and it it it represents a bad character because it doesn’t right mental illness and addictions are actually biologically based brain diseases right so you know there is help available for that and that’s when want people to know but it’s not a weak character if somebody becomes addicted to something right
00:31:03 some people may say oh well they still they took that first drink with that first pill right but it’s a chemical imbalance in their brain right some people could drink casually right where others become addicted to it so really we have to say no this is a disease and you should not be ashamed of that and you should seek help for that Scott if it was one thing you wish you could do better what would it be yeah there’s there there’s probably several things right um the the maybe just uh reaching out more to our community I guess as well you know uh sometimes we get bogged
00:31:40 down in the administrative functions and things like that at work but um being able to reach out more on a Grassroots level you know because um that’s what we’ve been learning right that Grassroots is really where you need to be and we need to listen to our community you know we do do that but I think that’s something that we we could do better what’s the best compliment anybody ever gave you um best compliment u i I guess you be just that I’m doing a good job you know I’ve had great uh employee uh reviews right uh for the uh uh what they call them from the board you
00:32:15 know my my employment reviews so I think that’s a compliment hearing from the board you know they’re doing a good job and I think it’s a compliment also to be able to go out and and talk about the mental health board and represent the board excellent well Scott thank you for sharing your Insight and shedding light on the crucial work that’s being done and address mental health and addiction in our community it’s clear that your decisions and making a significant is making a significant difference in what we’re doing here in our community and we appreciate all the work
00:32:45 that you’re doing DJ do you got a question from Mr Scott before we go yes yes um do you see a rise in more Mental Health issu issues and more complicated mental health issues that you hadn’t seen in the past and is there any success stories that you could share with us on that yeah we have a lot of success success stories I’ll answer that one first right so we have something called the adult committee advocating change and that is a group of uh people who’ve received Mental Health Services or receiving and they sort of serve as an adviser right to the Adams board they
00:33:26 get together and and there’s many great stories there of people have went on you know to to um live over their mental illness right and Lead full and productive lives you know mental illness and uh addictions they sort of EB and flow as we go along but um more serious mental illness the most serious is really like schizophrenia is one of our most serious and we do see you know people doing that and and the thing is too as long as we keep promoting that there’s help available I think more people will be coming forward to talk about their mental illness that’s wild man that like you say
00:34:00 mental is is is one that wish on nobody wish on nobody yes so Scott what we do when we end most of our programs we give you opportunity to look right there in this camera All Right This one belongs to you and you get to tell the people anything you want to end let them know how they can reach out to the [ __ ] board how they can reach out um your web address and everything else and as always we will leave links in our description on how you can reach Scott and over there to the Adams board and
00:34:26 get help for any other ISS issues or any of your needs that we talked about today but Scott camera is yours take your time say to the people whatever you like to say okay what I’d like to say is that please remember that help is available want people to know that mental illnesses and addictions are a biologically based brain disorder there’s nothing to be ashamed of if you had cancer if you had a broken leg if you had diabetes you would go to get the help and you would tell people that you were
00:34:52 going to get that help and to reach out to us our best thing is to call 988 so 988 is our 24-hour information referral uh Suicide Prevention crisis hotline and that’s really an important number to to remember is just 988 that’s really good and the other last thing that treatment works and people do recover treatment works and people do recover I think that’s what we’re gonna put on your thumbnail you just gave me your thumbnail treat work and people do recover there it is Scot oiki Adams board here in Cleveland and thanks for tuning in and we’ll see you next week peace
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